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Requested move 11 August 2017

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The result of the move request was: no consensus DrStrauss talk 17:41, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John N. Dalton → John Dalton (governor) – WP:COMMONNAME - "John Dalton" + Virginia returns nearly 150k google results, compared to "John N. Dalton" + Virginia with only 12.5k. Also, the United Press International obituary of Dalton omits the middle initial.

I use "governor" as the disambiguation to distinguish the article from John Dalton (MP). If anyone objects, "John Dalton (politician)" is also a sensible alternative - which makes more sense because he is far more well known than the British MP. Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:01, 11 August 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. DrStrauss talk 18:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. TheSandDoctor (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:NATURAL. When a person is sometimes (even if not mostly) known by a middle name or initial, it's better to use that natural and neutral disambiguation than an artificial qualifier that we make up. It's not surprising that "John Dalton"+Virginia gets more hits because there's normally nothing ambiguous John Dalton in those contexts. Besides that, John M. Dalton was also a governor, so the proposal would be only a partial disambiguation. Station1 (talk) 17:42, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Then I'd propose John Dalton (Virginia politician) as an alternative to disambiguate from John M. Dalton. Also, the article about former US Senator Paul Simon is titled Paul Simon (politician) to dab. from Garfunkel's other half - instead of the more natural "Paul M. Simon". Arbor to SJ (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]